South Hampshire July
Jim Lawrie, our Chairman, opened the meeting
and welcomed all there, including our guest speaker Ron Pearce.
Apologies were then read out from John Burton,
Kevin Burnett, Steve Cox, Geoff Futcher, and Bryon Shaw. (26
We then had a minute’s silence for Martin
Terry, who passed away on Wednesday 4th July.
Neil Cawley was
to judge the benched birds during the tea break, so we could talk
about them later in the evening.
Ron started his
power point presentation, showing us the old setups with wooden
cages and outside flights. He went on to show all the improvements
they had made over the last few years, bringing them in to the 21st
His birdroom is
20`X10` with 2 stock flights complete with sink, extract fan and all
mod cons. He said that upgrading your birdroom is ongoing (or should
be). He has 24 plastic breeding units with plastic nest boxes from
Oestringer, which are easy to clean but not cheap to buy.
finished his presentation /talk, then took questions from the floor,
which was interesting and amusing at times.
gave a detailed assessment of the birds he had chosen, with a heavy
feathered bird up front. He said it was difficult, as all the top
birds had some faults. Ron said that was what judges had to deal
with at most shows.
Well done to Ron for a very interesting
presentation and thanks for not taking any expenses. Thanks too, to
all who brought birds on the evening.
The meeting finished at 9.40pm with the
raffle. Jim thanked all members and closed the meeting, wishing all
a safe journey home.
South Hampshire June
Jim Lawrie, our Chairman,
opened the meeting and welcomed all there, including our guest
speaker Bob Allen, who had travelled up from Little Stoke. He then
read out the email I received from Heidi’s husband Tim Tizard,
saying thank you to all of the club members for the kind donations
to the Air Ambulance.
“Heidi supported the Air Ambulance after
seeing them in action near the farm where she worked, after a
cyclist had been knocked off his bike. The first medical person on
the scene when she got knocked over by a transit van last year was
an Air Ambulance guy on his way home....by car.
Also I would like to thank the club for
helping Heidi with her birds. She learnt a lot and really enjoyed
being part of your world. I am looking after Heidi's two. If I need
any advice I know where to ask”
Apologies were then read out from John Burton,
Kevin Burnett, Geoff Futcher, Ray Nichols and Bryon Shaw. (22
Our Show schedule has been updated and
printed, ready to be posted out to various breeders. Peter Merritt
also handed some out to those there as well as giving Bob Allen some
for the Bristol club.
Bob was to judge
the 12 benched birds during the tea break, so we could talk about
them later in the evening.
started his presentation with “Early Years”, which was 1960
and after talking about the good old days that he was
involved in, he then showed us pictures of his new / current
birdroom 2018 with patio door, sink and the kettle for
making teas etc.
15 breeding units down each side (30) that he can use if
required, but only uses 25 cages as the babies need
somewhere to go when removed from parents! He showed us lots
of rare varieties of budgies, including his famous half
sider with an explanation on the birds in layman’s terms so
we all understood.
presentation was very involved regarding details of his soft
food mixture, water treatment and various medications and
preventive medicines. He showed all the treatments he
uses to avoid northern / red mite which includes a good
quality fogger, after having suffered with it before, as a
lot of us have had with the problem of red mite.
At the end of his presentation he
showed us some quality well feathered Canada birds with an
explanation about them.
|Bob, having finished his power point
presentation, then went over to the benched birds and
started to give comments regarding the quality of the birds
benched and the faults and good features that were in front
of him. He also explained the types of pairings he liked
and what he was trying to put on to his birds.
He gave a detailed assessment of the
birds he had chosen, with a Cin Grey Cock up as Best Bird,
saying it was not his type of bird, but would do a lot of
winning as it was a super budgie!
With most birds commented on, along
with comments from various members, he then took some
questions from the floor. There were lots of positive and
interesting comments, so ‘well done’ to all the winners.
Well done to Bob for his power point and
thanks for not taking any expenses. Thanks also to all who brought
birds on the evening.
South Hampshire - May
SOUTH HAMPSHIRE BS’
SAFARI TO THREE TOP FANCIERS.
The sun was shining. It was the day of the Royal
Wedding. It was the FA Cup final. The day could not get any better,
so you would have thought. But it did!
South Hants’ mustered a team of eleven enthusiasts to
go on a budgie safari to Alec and David Woan (Club Show winners);
Harry Hockaday; and Alan and Gina Adams. These were:
Les and Miranda Underwood;
With the sun on our backs we left Peter’s place
Saturday morning at 7.00am (Neil kindly taking the driving seat of
our 17 seater bus – most of the group were banned from driving due
to their ages!), picking up Jim and Derek en route. We were away,
full of excitement and anticipation of having a great time and
seeing top birds. We were not to be disappointed!
Our first visit was to Alec and David Woan. We
arrived at 10:30am to be warmly received by David and Alec and shown
to their new brick built birdroom. Inside we had tea or coffee and
biscuits before being show some top birds, including the Spangle
that won the Club show in 2016. They had effectively maximised the
use of space with a kitchen area by the door and windows, and three
two tiered box-aluminium flight cages. David put quite a few of his
birds in show cages for us to see, all with great top ends. In
particular he put up a young grey barhead that had great potential
showing plenty of length and directional feathering.
Our next visit was to Don and Harry Hockaday. On
arriving at about 1:45pm we were again warmly welcomed by Harry and
Angie and taken to their conservatory for refreshments and some
banter before visiting his birdrooms. We were all “champing at the
bit” to see his birds and those of us with 20/20 vision (not many!)
could see Harry’s birdroom in the distance of the 1.8 acre grounds,
which were magnificent.
The birdroom (two in fact) was a log cabin of about
30’ x 18’ kited out with a kitchen area, two Oestringer flight cages
in the middle of the birdroom surrounded on three sides with wire
breeding cages. It was good to see Don looking well and still
maintaining his interest in the birds as he managed to join us in
the birdroom. Harry showed us top birds that had us all drooling
over, with great of top ends without excessive directional feather
and plenty of length. He is working with three lines of birds to
develop his own style of bird, which he is clearly achieving. He
talked to the group on his management routines, emphasising the
importance of regular preventative medication (to prevent common
ailments such as trichomoniasis and megabac).
Both log cabins are situated on an old tennis ground
that Harry decided he would not be using, preferring his birds and
fishing instead! The second cabin was a bit smaller than the main
birdroom, which he has only recently put up. It currently houses a
full Oestringer flight and a half flight some 12’ long that divides
into two flights (made by Ian Ainley).
We were all having such a great time, especially
Miranda swinging on a sun lounger with Angie partaking in some
liquid refreshments and enjoying the sunshine, it was difficult to
drag people away to get to our hotel. After a group photo, we said
our fond farewells to Harry and Angie thanking them for their
On arriving at our Premier Inn around 5:30pm, and
after refreshing ourselves in our rooms all met in the adjoining
Beefeater restaurant at 6:45pm for our evening meal and drinks (of
course!) Our Polish waitress was very efficient and courteous (maybe
it was due to the mature ages of most of us), and told us how we
could obtain a 40% discount!!! Needless to say, she received a very
generous tip. Having had a great day, but a tiring one most of us
oldies had an early bed around 10:00pm.
The next morning we all mustered for an 8:00am
breakfast, and catch up on the previous day’s events. Our next visit
was to Alan and Gina’s place, which was only 10 minutes from the
hotel. We arrived early at about 9:45am, at first worrying that Alan
might still have been in bed. But no, he was already in the birdroom.
Many of us had been to Alan and Gina’s before but it was good to met
up again and see their birds. We all went into their long and
spacious birdroom, and Gina took our orders for Tea and coffee
(several times) and later served cream and jam scones and biscuits.
On entering the birdroom, there was a two tiered
flight cage in which Alan had put sales birds with a price list.
This attracted a lot of attention, and a few of us were catching up
birds in his rack of show/training cages to asses the birds’
qualities. Les was exceptionally enthusiastic, and before long had
his name on six useful birds. As his money bag was getting emptier,
he tried to negotiate a modest reduction but this was not to be. Not
one to be put off by rejection, Les invited Alan to “toss a coin” to
conclude their deal At first Alan was reluctant as he had on
previous occasion lost out twice on the “toss of a coin” but sure
his bad luck streak was over he agreed. Alas he lost again – better
luck next time.
Alan showed us some quality birds in show cages. A
particular bird that we all remember was a late bred Grey Dominant
Pied cock with plenty of blow and directional feather and stood on
its perch upright and didn’t move, just like a Guardsman.
We said our goodbyes and hit the road around noon for
the journey back. We all had a great weekend, and are already
thinking about our next year’s adventure.
Jim Lawrie, our Chairman, opened the
meeting and welcomed all there. Apologies were read out from John
Burton, Kevin Burnett, Brian Bailey, Geoff Futcher and Bryon Shaw.
We then had a minutes silence for Heidi Patient who passed away 2
weeks ago. (27 Members Attended).
With the birds benched, Neil Johnson started judging
at 8.15pm. Neil Cawley acted as chief steward,
whilst we dealt with some club business.
Jim then handed over
to me to give a
brief of the format for the evening, which was asking Neil to choose
Best Young Bird overall, Best Opposite Sex and Best Barhead, as well
as section winners.
I also mentioned
that our Show schedule had been updated as far we can go at the
moment – we are just waiting for further details to come through to
Andy Thorpe from the BS.
Jim read out the some of the minutes
of the last meeting, which was the AGM and the ‘Pete Smith with Tom
I mentioned some of the decisions
made at the committee meeting of the 27-3-2018, which was held at
Peter Merritt’s house.
Neil had almost finished his judging by the break, so after
refreshments he selected the main winners of the night. He gave a
detailed assessment of the birds he had chosen, with a Cobalt Cock
up as Best Bird, saying it had some growing to do to become a super
Neil then started to give comments regarding the quality of the
birds benched and the faults and good features that were in front of
him. He also explained the types of pairings he liked and what he
was trying to put on to his birds.
With each bird commented on, along with comments from
various members, he then took questions from the floor. There were
lots of positive and interesting comments, so ‘well
done’ to all the winners.
The winners on the
- Best Young
Bird: Ray Nichols (Cobalt Cock - Best
- Best Opp. Sex
Young Bird: Les & Miranda Underwood
- Best Champion
Bird: Pam & Malcolm Freemantle
Intermediate Bird: Peter Merritt
- Best Novice
Young Bird: Ray Nichols
- Best Beginner
Bird: Les & Miranda Underwood
- Best Barhead:
- Best Spangle:
- Best Red Eye:
- Best Yellow
Face: Les & Miranda Underwood
Well done to Neil
for his judging and thanks for not taking any expenses. Thanks too
to all who brought birds on the evening!
finished at 9.30pm with the
thanked all members
and closed the meeting, wishing all a safe journey home.
South Hampshire -
Chairman, Jim Lawrie, opened the meeting and welcomed all there.
Apologies were read
out from Paul Gover, Bryon Shaw, Geoff Futcher, John Burton, David
Blackeby, Peter Church, Brian Bailey, John Mullen, Andrew McKendrick,
Martin Terry, and Kevin Burnett. (11) There were 22 in attendance.
birds benched (any
Green Series bird) and ready for Pete
Smith to Judge, we dealt with club business / AGM. Peter Merritt
had previously handed out the 2017 accounts for members to take home
to see if there were any ‘anomalies’ that they would like to raise
South Hampshire Minutes of AGM 2017:
These were taken as
a true account by members and there were no comments.
The Minutes were
taken as a true account.
(Proposed by Neil
Cawley – Seconded by Jim Lawrie)
David Rice, started by saying a thank you to everyone connected to
the club for the work they did and apologised if he had forgotten
anyone. He said committee members had put in a tremendous amount of
work over the year to ensure that South Hampshire BS remained one
of the best clubs in the south and that there had been some great
meetings with entertaining speakers, which was very good indeed.
David Rice is in his last year of a three year term
as our President. David said it was an
honour being President and
he would enjoy his last year.
New President N/A
Chairman then gave his report
Jim Lawrie got up
and said how well the club was progressing, which was due to the
membership all pulling together to make it a very successful
Society. He said he hoped it would continue in 2018 and beyond.
Tony Cash started
by thanking the committee for all of their work during the year,
which had contributed to the success of the club. He said all of the
meetings had been well attended during the year.
Treasurer’s Report and Membership
Peter Merritt went
through the profit and loss/balance sheet reports that had been
given out to members. Peter said that, compared to 2016, there were
not a lot of differences and he gave a full detailed explanation of
the accounts that showed an overall yearly profit of £802.52 (Open
Show profit £397.30). Peter thanked Malcolm Freemantle for his work
on the accounts over the years, as he was stepping down this year.
by Tony Cash – Seconded by Ray Nichols)
The President took
over the chair for the election of Chairperson and officers.
Last Year in Office
Tony Cash / Neil Cawley
Andy Thorpe / Kevin Burnett
Mick Freeborn / Neil Johnson
Peter Merritt + Team
Voted in block:
Honorary Life Memberships: 2018
Regarding the Open Show in August,
we will be having an auction of 9 birds again to raise funds for the
club and we have thanked all those who contribute towards helping
the club have a successful Open Show. We discussed the entry fees
and incentives at the Committee meeting that was held on the 27th
March 2018 at 1pm at Peter Merritt’s house and they stay the same as
The AGM finished at
Jim then introduced
the evening’s speakers, Pete Smith & Tom Jackson from Swindon BS.
Tom started the
first part of the evening with a power point presentation on
preparing a bird for showing; it was full of detail with step by
step pictures of washing / cleaning of various varieties and colours
and it showed birds being de-spotted ready for show and his method
from start of preparation to showing the bird. He took questions
from the floor, with most agreeing that they did similar with their
own birds, de-spotting was the one where some prefer to cut spots!
While Tom was doing
this Pete Smith was placing birds in order to talk about later on.
Pete started by
giving a brief of his history in the keeping of birds in general,
starting off with foreign birds and being a member of the
Cirencester CBS. His first ever show was at Gloucester, where he
bought some budgies from the sales class, which was the start of him
keeping budgies 20 years ago.
Like many breeders
he has moved about and built a few different aviary’s/sheds/lofts up
to his new present one which is 20` X 10` with all wire breeding
units (having tried all sorts of units etc and found these worked
well for him). Pete talked about his breeding results over the
years and the different stock he had brought in from various
breeders/bloodlines to try and breed the winning bird! One thing
which showed up from his meticulous records was that if a pair had
clear eggs on the first round then it was 85% certain to have clear
again in the 2nd round (interesting).
After the break
Pete was asked to comment on the Green Series birds brought along by
members, which he had judged earlier. This then brought up a few
interesting comments from various members.
There were lots of
positive and interesting observations, so ‘well done’ to all who
supported by bringing birds (18).
After the raffle
Jim Lawrie, our chairman, thanked Pete & Tom for their presentations
and for not taking any expenses and then closed the meeting at 9.75
and wished all a safe journey home.
South Hampshire -
due to Snow
South Hampshire -
Jim Lawrie, our
acting Chairman, opened the meeting and welcomed all there and our
guest Andy Thorpe, who was going to be asked questions on a
one-to-one by Jim Lawrie.
Apologies were read
out from Peter Merritt, John Burton, Bryon Shaw, Geoff Futcher,
Brian Bailey, Heidi Patient, Jane Cooper and John Mullen.
The main sub titles
tonight were: The Early Days, Management, Success with a Small Stud,
Showing and General Stuff / Meetings & How Has the Hobby Changed.
Q1. How and
when did you get interested in budgerigars?
A: I started in the
early sixties, when I was 11 years old, with a pair of Grey
Q2. What was
your first aviary set-up like?
A: It was a double
breeding cage with a nest box on side. I then got a second-hand 8’X
6’ shed with a small outside flight and I joined the local Gosport
Q3. Can you
remember your first major Out-Cross?
A: I bought from
various breeders around in the area, also Bob Steele.
Q4. Did you
ever come out of the hobby?
A: I came out in
1980 for 10years, whilst working in Jersey. There I saw Muir &
Crossman birds at the Jersey Open show and came back into the hobby
when I came back home in 1990.
What appealed to you about budgerigars?
A: I started with a
pair when I was 11 years old. I had seen various varieties of
birds, but budgies seemed to be what I liked in those days and,
later on, I was helped by various champion breeders from local
Q6. Who have
been your major influences?
A: Bill Heffer was
the main mentor.
Q7. What is
your current set-up like?
A: Better then the
first one! I now have a 20` long by 10`wide brick built aviary, with
double glazed windows, internal 4’X 8’ flights at each end and 16
breeding units (only use 12), complete with a worktop, which is very
Q8. What are
your views on outside flights?
A: They are not for
me, as they are a security risk as well as all the foreign bird
droppings etc,. I don’t think they are needed.
Q9. How many
birds and what varieties do you keep?
A: I keep several different
varieties, Blues & Greys but mainly normals and also spangles and DF
spangles - about 130 is my normal stock level (said to many) but
going up to after the breeding season.
your daily management routine?
A: In the morning I
feed general seed and soft food with Just Supplements carrot &
greens as well as Orlux egg food and fresh water (daily).
Q11. What do
you do differently during breeding, resting, showing?
A: I have the same
routine all year around.
diet, supplements, softfood etc. Do you ever try new products? How
influenced are you by what others are doing?
A: There are lots
of new and different products now on the market to use, but I don’t
change my system of feeding unless I have problems. I feed lots of
fruit and vegetables and millet sprays.
lighting times do you use? How do they vary throughout the year?
A: The lights come
on at 7am until 10pm, all year round, with a break at 12am – 1pm. I
also have a dimmer system to turn on the night lights and then turn
off the fluorescents.
special features do you look for in a budgie?
A: Deportment /
style a must, with a good back scull. I’m careful not to use very
buff untidy birds with short masks.
Q15. What is
your approach to pairing up, and how important is pedigree versus
visual, colours and varieties?
A: I need both
pedigree and visual when pairing up, making sure I am improving the
birds and not going backwards by creating feather problems or
dusters if they are in the back ground of my stock. I seem to be
line breeding now.
Q16. How long
will you leave a pair together before splitting them up?
A: 3 weeks at the
most. I have split them after a couple of hours if I’m not happy
with them or they don’t seem compatible with each other! Some birds
reject birds of a certain colour and won’t breed. When changing a
bird’s partner to a different colour they will mate and produce
Q17. With a
limited number of breeding cages how do you manage a clear first
A: I pair up in
November and will let them go again to see if I can catch them on
the correct cycle. I will also pair love couples I see in the
flight if they are compatible.
Q18. What are
the benefits of working with a small(ish) number of birds?
A: I find I have
enough stock / breeding pairs. If you remember, Jim Hutton used to
use only 12 breeding cages and many other breeders do the same and
do very well in numbers and quality.
Q19. How many
times do you show each year and how many birds do you show?
A: I only do about
2 shows a year now, although it used to be many more with lots of
travelling. I take 6 birds at a time to my kitchen to prepare them
with a wash with baby shampoo and I also trim them rather than pluck
them, which I find gets a better result.
I seem to be
judging a lot more now, but not as many as I used to.
Q20. How has
the hobby changed?
A: It has changed
in lots of ways, some for good and some for bad. With the judges
training course now it has produced some good judges for the hobby,
but others are still in the old days with regard to the modern
budgie. I believe judges that are judging specialist varieties and
don’t keep them should go around to different aviaries to see and
understand the variety content of the birds.
Q21. My time
as a BS Judge:
A: I thoroughly
enjoyed myself judging here and abroad: it is a real eye opener.
After the interview
there was lots of interaction between all the members whilst they
were having a cuppa. It was a great evening, with all the members
creating a friendly atmosphere and most people contributing in some
way. Some of the questions asked took up a lot of time, e.g.:
judge the variety that they keep? And many more!
We all (24) had a
lovely evening listening to Andy’s answers to our questions on
various subjects, and on breeding & problems and how to overcome
some of them in this great hobby of ours.
After the raffle
Jim Lawrie thanked everybody. He then closed the meeting and wished
everyone a safe journey home. Our thanks to Andy for not taking any
South Hampshire -
Jim Lawrie, our Acting Chairman,
opened the meeting and welcomed all there. Apologies were read out
from John Burton, Bryon Shaw, Geoff Futcher, Steve Bailey, Brian
Bailey, Peter Church, John Mullen, Martin Terry and Steve Cox.
14 birds were
benched and ready to be judged later, in the order that they would
be used for breeding with.
Jim Lawrie then
explained the format for the evening, which was talking about our
breeding problems and medications / vitamins in the first session,
then looking and talking about the birds that David Rice was going
to judge during the first part of the evening.
With lots of
discussion on day old chicks dying/ dead in shell /addled, which was
the problem Neil Cawley was having, and the various ways to
eradicate this we went on to talk about all sorts of problems, as
well as feeding methods etc. Jim Lawrie said he was having a poor
start to the breeding season again this year, with others having a
great start. Peter Merritt said he was off on a flyer this year in
his new cages and explained what he thought were the reasons for
We discussed the
various additives we were all using, with a lot of similar products
being used by many.
One of the
products renamed was “Carr’s AD-Herbs Original for pigeons”. Sizes
250ml, 500ml, 1000ml and 2500ml (Peter was put on to this by Brian
Sweeting some time ago).
oil, essential oil of origanum (Without menthol).
5ml thoroughly into 2kg of feed.
Use everyday to maintain good
condition. Use feed within 5 months. Shake well before use.
Also, a product
that Peter Merritt uses as well as others is Zooserine, which comes
from Portugal. Peter said that the price has gone up from £6.00 to
£11.00 for 40 tablets. He explained what he uses it for and said he
would try and acquire some for the members (10).
is indicated for the treatment of mixed infections of the
respiratory tract and digestive tract. Chronic respiratory
infections, traqueobronquites, pneumonia, and tuberculosis and
mycoplasmosis gastroenteritis caused by salmonella and e. coli, as
well as the clamidiose, are among the main indications.)
This then brought
up a discussion on all types of diseases and the medicines to treat
them. Below are some of the medicines mentioned that are used by,
or required by, the members.
2Grams to 2
Litres or as Harry says:
Triple C -
Natural Supplement in drinking water:
Baytril Oral -
Harkers 3 in 1
(Waga Waga in
After this we asked
several members to express their views on the birds and most agreed
that the positions that David Rice had placed them in were the
We then discussed
an Aviary visit, with over night stay out, possibly to Harry
Hockaday and Alan and Gina Adams and maybe a third visit, which the
club would subsidise with the cost of the mini buses. Most of the
members there put up their hands (14) as being interested in going,
possibly around May time. We will investigate and come back to you.
We all had a lovely
evening talking about our breeding and problems and how to overcome
some of them in this great hobby of ours. Many thanks to all that
brought birds for the meeting.
After the raffle
Jim Lawrie thanked everybody. He then closed the meeting and wished
everyone a safe journey home.